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LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE and LEAGUE FORMATION MEETING for the 2014-5 SEASON on Tuesday 19th of August 2014 at Mobberley Victory Hall Memorial Club

1 - Attendance:

• League Officers:

• League Secretary: Tony Crompton
• Chairperson: Steve Power
• Competition / Trophy Secretary: Dave Nuttall (apologies)
• Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (apologies)
• President: Sid Jones (Not present)
• Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (apologies)

• League Clubs:

• Brook Street: Steve Power / Bob Jones / Ashley Parker
• Mere: Sam Jackson
• Mobberley: Tony Crompton
• Morley: Paul Hart
• Royal London: Alan Beeley
• Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall
• Tatton: Rob Clarke
• Wilmslow Cons: None present

2 - Apologies for absence

• Geoff Jackson; Dave Nuttall; Andy Long; Paul Townsend

3 - Minutes of last meeting

• The Secretary had previously circulated copies of the last meeting (the AGM) on the web site and no matters had been brought to his attention.

• Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Ashley Parker and Seconded by Sam Jackson. Of those able to vote: all in favour, none against and no abstentions.

• As previously agreed, hard copies of minutes and agendas will not be available at meetings and attendees are advised to print a copy off from the web site in advance of each meeting if they require them.

4 - Items arising from the last meeting (and not otherwise agenda listed)

• None - but the Secretary reminded all of the new rules that came into force at this year’s AGM:

• At the pre-season meeting, clubs will register a minimum of 7 players per team (who are not tied to a team) per division (if applicable). Any other players registered will be classed as ‘reserves’ who will be infrequent players and who can play for any team at any time when the first named ‘divisional’ players are unavailable. Any disputes regarding the eligibility of any such player should be raised with the Secretary for the next League Meeting to discuss.

5 - Disciplinary / Matters of Dispute / New Registrations

• TC stated that this meeting is effectively the league formation meeting and the Secretary therefore asked each club in turn to detail how many teams would be entered in the league for the 2012-13 season and then the captain’s details for each team entered.

• The Secretary reminded all present that League rule 5.5 states: “The management committee will vote to accept or reject any such teams and names presented and, as those rejected will not be part of the new season’s league and thereby subject to it’s rules, there will be no right to appeal on said decision” and further added that all captains are reminded of their personal, team and club responsibilities so that issues, incidents and other matters brought to the committees attention last season do not arise again this year as such matters will be dealt with expeditiously and seriously.

• Brook Street – 2 teams entered:

• A team captain Andy Long;
• B team captain Ashley Parker

Division 1

1. Andy Long
2. Gary Long
3. Bob Jones
4. Mark Murphy
5. Martin Sharpe
6. Rick Peers
7. Steve Prosser

Division 2

1. Ashley Parker
2. Steve Power
3. Carl Prince
4. Chris Parker
5. Francis Evans
6. Simon Nixon
7. Adrian Hough
8. Harold Cox
9. Vic Mullen

• Brook Street Reserve List

1. Sam Pointon

• Mere – 3 teams entered

• A team captain Geoff Owen
• B team captain Thomas Jackson
• C team captain Philip Simpson

1. Alex Wright
2. Geoff Owen
3. Matthew Owen
4. Richard Owen
5. Will Bushell
6. Will Blackburn
7. Chris Bushell
8. Allen Jackson
9. Antony Jackson
10. David Jackson
11. Eddie Wakefield
12. John Jackson
13. Sam Jackson
14. Thomas Jackson
15. Philip Simpson
16. Daniel Pollard
17. Jamie Flood
18. Terry Riley
19. Sam Riley
20. Joe Gates
21. Dave Simcock

• Mere Reserve List

1. Simon Lowndes
2. Alan Greenaway
3. Geoff Jackson
4. Jesse Oldfield
5. Josh Flood
6. Arthur Hasford
7. Mark Bushell
8. Jack Bushell
9. Peter Jackson

• Mobberley - 5 teams entered

• A team captain Tony Crompton
• B team captain Wayne Hammond
• C team captain Ian Paton
• D team captain Derek Street
• E team captain Alan Williams

Division 1

1. Tony Crompton
2. Steve Bond
3. Mike Roylance
4. Bruce Tulley
5. Mark Newall
6. Paul Adkin
7. Steve Flinders
8. Wayne Hammond
9. Chris McNeil
10. Paul Hodson
11. Jeff Gorton
12. Mervyn Pike
13. Mike Gittins
14. Adam McNeil
15. Scott Mills
16. Ian Paton
17. Bob Spilsbury
18. Peter Turner
19. Terry Norman
20. Will Cowley
21. Nathan Weightman

Division 2

1. Kevin Harrison
2. Kevin Holman
3. John Percival
4. Josh Street
5. Leung Yu
6. Herbert Hope
7. Alan Williams
8. Dave Taylor
9. Brian Lomas
10. Geoff Taylor
11. Harry Halsall
12. Phil Willocks
13. Dennis Robinson
14. Darren Taylor

Reserves

1. Chris Clarke
2. Robert Spilsbury
3. Derek Street
4. Gary Hammond

• Morley – 1 team entered

1. Paul Hart (captain)
2. Dave Moores
3. Graham Walls
4. Jason Robinson
5. Steve Stubbs
6. George Antrobus
7. Derek Stubbs
8. Rod Bird
9. Phil Wood
10. Keith Aldred

• Morley Reserve List

1. Nigel Woodall
2. Seb Jackson

• Royal London – 1 team entered

1. James Nash (captain)
2. Alan Beeley
3. Mark Baker
4. Pete Hodge
5. Rick Goldsmith
6. Steve Barnes
7. John Goldsmith

• Royal London Reserve List

1. John Beeley
2. Paul Beeley
3. Laurence Hodge
4. Steven Sharples
5. Adam Drinkwater
6. Nick Clough

• Shaw Heath – 1 team entered

1. Scott Marshall (captain)
2. Dave Rainford
3. Chris Jackson
4. Steve Jenyons
5. Jamie Way
6. John Dale
7. Mark Evans
8. Mark Jenyons

• Shaw Heath Reserve List

1. Bradley Williams
2. Gareth Williams
3. Dave Mullins
4. Mark Jenyons
5. Dave MacDonald
6. Stuart Valentine

• Tatton – 1 team entered

1. Paul Townsend (Captain)
2. Dave Blackburn
3. Ian Snelson
4. Phil Roden
5. Rob Clarke
6. Drew McAra
7. John Peet
8. Steve Jackson
9. James Phillipson

• Tatton Reserve List

1. Alan Conkleton
2. Peter Cowley
3. Ian Hendry
4. Keith Roden

• Wilmslow Cons - 2 teams entered

• A team captain Mike Sullivan
• B team captain Ralph Robertson

Division 1

1. Mike Sullivan
2. Jonathan Smith
3. John Higgins
4. Charlie Williams
5. Richard Bayley
6. Will Bell
7. Mark Anderson

Division 2

1. Ralph Robertson
2. David Nuttall
3. Jake O’Neill
4. Dave Wilkinson
5. Richard Buxton
6. Jim Sinclair
7. Peter Stakes

• Wilmslow Cons Reserve List

1. David Slater
2. Graham Kitson
3. Peter Watson
4. Rod Buxton
5. Howard Blankley
6. Alan Potts
7. Glyn Batten
8. Ian Clark
9. Alan Hardy
10. Frank Griffith
11. Irvine MacDonald

• There were no objections made to any of the above players joining the league for the 2014-5 season except for Dave MacDonald and Mark Jenyons of Shaw Heath. Each had been previously suspended from the league for various offences previously documented:

• DM has sent TC an email which states: Dear Tony and the KADASL, I'd like to send this letter to say sorry for my verbal rant I had at you over not turning up for our match. I'd been out all day and a few people were going on about it when I got into the club and then that's when I rang you up. I'm truly sorry and ashamed of myself but I won't be having the same conduct I promise that. I’ll leave it with the league now but really hope I can play again next season. Many thanks, Dave McDonald.

• After discussion it was agreed to allow the player to rejoin the league.

• MJ has sent TC an email which states: To whom it may concern. I am writing this letter to apologise and say sorry for my actions during the night of the Shaw Heath / Royal London match. It was totally out of character for me. I was having personal problems and had consumed way too much alcohol on the night and a foul which the ref or James didn't call unfortunately just tipped me over the edge, but that does not in any way excuse my words or actions. So I'd personally like to say sorry to James, Tony, Royal London, my team and the league. I can assure you it will never happen again and really hope my apology is accepted and the situation can be resolved as I really enjoy playing snooker. Yours sincerely, Mark Jenyons.

• After discussion it was agreed unanimously (RL abstained) to allow the player to rejoin the league on the proviso that any future complaint upheld against him will then have his previous suspension included in the discussion prior to the committee deciding what penalty to impose – this may result in him being banned from the league for life. In addition, he cannot play in or attend any matches against or including Royal London during the 2014-5 season.

• With 16 teams entering the league, as previously agreed, this season TC proposed (BJ seconded) that the league be made up of 2 divisions with 8 teams in each playing each other in four cycles of 7 = 28 actual matches. PH counter proposed (AB seconded) that the season be made up of 3 cycles of 7 matches = 21 games with more weeks for competitions and a Christmas break. Voting: counter proposal first – 2 in favour 5 against; defeated. Original proposal – 5 in favour 2 against; carried.

6 – League structure / admin for the coming season

• Division 1 – Brook Street A; Mobberley A, B and C; Morley; Shaw Heath; Tatton; Wilmslow Cons A.

• Mobberley C will play their home games on Tuesdays.

• Division 2 – Brook Street B; Mere A, B and C; Mobberley D and E; Royal London; Wilmslow Cons B.

• Mere A, Mere B and Royal London will play their home games on Thursdays and Mobberley E will play at home on Wednesdays.

• TC said that the fixtures were already entered on the league website in anticipation of the above structure. All captains must now organise their teams and print off their fixtures.

• TC handed out 35 scorecards for each team – 28 for league matches; the rest for the Team KO cup and spares / errors. He encouraged all teams to email or text the results immediately after matches as this had been a great success since introduction.

• TC reminded all that he HAS MOVED ADDRESS – cards must be texted or emailed to him now, the facility to drop cards off at his new address DOES NOT EXIST and anyone attempting to do so will not have their card accepted.

7 - Items notified to Secretary prior to meeting

• DN said that league fee invoices will again be issued 4 times (every 7 weeks) this season. Those invoices would be issued to teams 2 weeks before each 7 week period and give teams a further 2 weeks grace to pay. That means invoices being issued in weeks 5 (pay by the end of week 9); 12 (pay by week 16 end); 19 (pay by week 23 end); 25 (pay by the end of the week after the season ends).

• DN said that Wilmslow RBL had still not paid their outstanding league fees from last season and had not responded to any requests for payment; in relation to trophies won by them; attended the AGM; or responded to contact regarding the new season. After brief discussion it was agreed that RBL would not be accepted into the league again (should they ever apply) until the outstanding monies PLUS a £50 fine be paid. This subject will be revisited should it ever arise.

8 - Trophies / Competitions Secretary

• This would have been DN’s first meeting back in post but he is unable to attend tonight due to illness and has sent his apologies plus a report to TC.

• TC said that he has allocated all players a competition handicap and these are on the kadasl.com website for all to access and display at their clubs. The process for allocation was based simply on the percentage of wins at the players playing level.

• DN stated that there will again be competition weeks inserted into the programme at intervals to ease the burden of competition nights and to spread the end of season ‘crush’.

• Team KO Cup handicaps will be allocated around the first 7 week rotation.

• All the dates have been set for the competitions and the Sunday comps have been moved to monthly from November.

9 - Treasurer

• DN reported via TC that there was nothing else to report beyond his comments at the AGM and above re RBL.

• Current league balance is £2,975.72 which he will continue to monitor.

10 - Any other business

• Tatton will play their home games (division 1) on Tuesdays.

• Bob Spilsbury (BS) has asked if the league will reconsider his lifetime ban from being a captain as imposed on 4.4.11. After discussion it was agreed (6 in favour 1 abstention) to allow BS to be a team captain again on the proviso that should there be any upheld repetition then any penalty subsequently imposed will include (or be limited to) a lifetime ban from being a captain – without any future right to appeal.

• Clubs informed TC (for onward to DN) about restrictions on nights available to the league for events:

1. Brook Street – OK with notice
2. Mere – OK with notice
3. Mobberley – OK with notice
4. Morley – Not Tuesdays
5. Royal London – Not available
6. Shaw Heath – OK with notice
7. Tatton – Only Tuesdays
8. Wilmslow Cons – Not Tuesdays

• A discussion was raised regarding the falling number of teams in the league and the subsequent future of it. It was agreed to appoint the 3 Brook Street reps present (SP, BJ and AP) to a working group to bring ideas and proposals to the next management meeting for discussion.

• PH asked “whose job is it to let clubs know about meetings and competitions at their clubs?” TC replied that the people attending league management meetings are meant to have the full authority to make decisions on behalf of their own clubs. It therefore follows that it is also their role to notify their own players, teams and club of any league information. This was agreed and understood by all clubs present.

• BJ asked if there was any scope in the rules to move regular players on club lists to reserves and vice versa. TC said that he could not foresee any issue with that as the whole object of the rule is to try to get 6 players out for every team every week.

• AP asked if there was any scope for increasing the league fees to similar to the MCSL where he pays £2 per week and where a proportion of the money goes to the club as income. TC said that this was a club matter and not for the league to decide. The league can determine league fees but our intention has always been to make snooker as cheap and accessible as possible and that we are still on target for a league fee free at our next anniversary.

• The e-mail addresses for the league (and Secretary): kadasl@aol.com plus the current league website address of www.kadasl.com and the new league website address www.leaguesnooker.co.uk will remain on the minutes of each meeting as an easy reference point for all.

11 Date of next meeting

Monday 20th October 2014 at 7pm at Mere